Voters in California will be voting this November on the fate of same-sex marriage in the state of California. Of course this will have a huge impact on others state as well. Proponents of Proposition 8 are seeking to overturn the California Supreme Courts recent decision that allowed same-sex marriage. I would urge those who live in CA to join the “Yes on 8″ volunteer campaign.
The “Yes on 8″ campaign website: protectmarriage.com
About the amendment from the website:
Proposition 8: The California Marriage Protection Amendment
Places into the California Constitution the same language that voters already passed by 61% of the vote in 2000. This is necessary to overturn an outrageous California Supreme Court decision that overturned Proposition 22.
The entire text of Proposition 8 is as follows:
“Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid and recognized in California.”
The following are two recent and interesting articles about the organization that is going on help win Prop 8:
Gay Marriage Foes Mobilize for Ban in California
California Churches Plan a Big Push Against Same-Sex Marriage
~Nate Gunderson
Tags: California, family, gay marriage, Prop 8, Proposition 8, same-sex marriage
BUT YOU’VE GOT TO SEE THIS
I am a confessed Huck’s Army Troll. A few weeks ago I knew that I would soon get banned so I set up a few other accounts so I could still have access to some of the utilities that come with membership (ie. be able to see posts since your most recent visit, look-up profile info, etcetera). I’ve kept my posting to an absolute minimum, only a couple, and have avoided defending Romney in any way so that I wouldn’t get banned again.
SOOO…..I got an e-mail in my account today. It’s entirety is shown below without adulteration. My guess is that the e-mail was sent by HA member called Debra because she attended the meeting with McCain that’s discussed below.
Why am I posting this? Well, up until this morning I was doing my best to make amends with the Huck crowd (I’m afraid this will ruin any hope of that now), but Huckabee’s comment on TV the last two days, coupled with this e-mail from some of his most dedicated supporters has convinced me that they don’t want to be team players and they should be exposed for their true aspirations. I have said repeated, that I will support whatever the GOP ticket may be, even if were Huckabee, for the benefit of the nation. These are very serious times, and we can in no way afford to hand the leadership of our country over to Obama.
And now the email sent to all of the Huck’s Army members: (emphasis below is mine)
HUCKS ARMY ATTENTION! ACTION ALERT!
Express our support for Huckabee and the values and type of leadership we
need to the Republican party leadership.
MI Congressman Fred Upton, from the 6th District, has John McCain’s ear.
Fred is McCain’s trusted friend and advisor. They are fishing buddies and
have been close for years. It is very important that we contact Fred and
let him know:
WE WILL NOT VOTE FOR A MCCAIN TICKET UNLESS:
1) Mike Huckabee is the VP; or
2) Mike Huckabee is the KEY NOTE SPEAKER at the National GOP Convention
Know that our meetings here in Michigan with McCain prompted this urgent
action–
Romney is being shoved down our throats here, and misinformation about us
is rampant.
In addition, you may know that this also happened at one of the meetings:
“Several in attendance reported to me that Sen. Lindsey Graham seriously
asked if social conservatives would support a vice president who favors
abortion on demand. They were shocked the question even had to be asked,
and alienated that the McCain campaign appears to be even considering it.”
–Gary Glenn, Mich. American Family Assn. President
So now, we know what McCain thinks of us and our issues. He is only
concerned with catering to the independent voters. We, who supported Mike
Huckabee, the millions of voters who earned him a 2nd place in delegate
count–are being ignored by McCain. McCain must know that he will LOSE not
only Michigan without us, but the election. At this point, he does not
HAVE US. We’ve tried repeatedly to reach out to him, and he has ignored
us.
Fred can be reached at: 269-385-0039 or http://www.house.gov/upton/
Ask Fred to carry our voices to McCain NOW. URGENT!!
Is this blackmail? a hijacking? extortion? What is it?
I very much want a pro-life candidate to be on the ticket, but not at the cost of putting an uber-liberal pro-abortionist actually into the office. That’s just ludicrous and childish.
Thoughts on the letter
- Gary Glenn is a royal loser, but for once I agree with his statement.
- Huckabee only gained 2nd in delegate votes after Romney had left the race for a month, and given some of his away to McCain. One of the states (I think MI) actually reassigned theirs at that point. So the statement ‘Huck came in second’ is not actually true.
- I wonder if Huckabee followers are starting to realize why they had such a civil relationship with McCain during the primaries. It’s because they both needed each other to bring down Romney. Huckabee was a ‘team’ player then. Why not now? Oh, because no one is on his team anymore.
- They may be right about McCain catering to independent voters. That is somewhat worrisome to me. Not that we don’t need independent voters, because we desperately do. But we shouldn’t gain them by giving into liberal notions. Instead lets win them on issues where they most likely align with us: energy, and foreign policy
Tell me, am I wrong here?
~Nate Gunderson
P.S. My goal in starting this blog is not to duke it out with Huck and Co. It is wearisome and unpleasant. So I’m done. I promise no more posts about the subject for at least a couple of weeks, unless Huckabee makes more statements about Romney. Here’s hoping Huckabee’s Fox show fails and he slips into obscurity. Maybe he can make a movie and get fat. Maybe a beard.
Addendum: Apparently Marc Ambinder got the memo too.
Tags: Fred Upton, Gary Glenn, GOP, GOP convention, Huck's Army, Huckabee, Lindsay Graham, Michigan, Mitt Romney, Romney, VP
From the forum mentioned in my previous post I am going to quote some things I disagree with and openly invite members of Huck’s Army to comment regarding my statements. I’m sure some of them will read this via Planet Romney. Here’s the deal: you be civil, and I will be too.
First and foremost, from RedCentral:
Make sure at the meeting that you mention Ridge and Rudy AND Romney since they are all pro-choice. If you don’t, they will accuse us of being bigots and I can just see the headlines now. It is important on who we approach this. We know that we don’t like Romney because he is not strong on social issues, but the media will say, “Why not Ridge, Rudy. Whey aren’t you opposed to them?
I, as a sentient human being and a strong social conservative, take great issue when you lump Romney with Ridge and Rudy in regards to social issues. Two are openly pro-choice, while one is adamantly pro-life. I have read time and again on HA that Romney is pro-choice. Can we stop with the misinformation please? When Romney was governor exactly 4 pieces of legislation came to his desk in regards to abortion. On all four his decision ruled in favor of life! And he made very strong statements regarding those decisions as well. I urge Huckabee supporters to read his letter to the editor after he vetoed a bill that would allow an over-the-counter morning-after pill. Have you ever thought how Romney can be pro-choice and have the pro-choice community infuriated with him? Simple. He’s not pro-choice, period. Stop saying that he is, it’s intellectual dishonesty.
Here’s another one to the same effect from TheValuesVoter:
But that said, I would not vote for a ticket that had ANY strongly pro-abortion person on it. And at first I really strongly opposed Giuliani and liked Romney - until Romney showed his true colors and his record on that issue came out. Then he made Rudy look good by comparison.
Then he made Rudy look good by comparison? Oh please. Must I remind you of the vast differences of their stances?
From Gen.Lee(1861)
I will vote for Obama if Romney is selected!!!!
Yes, this is exactly what our party needs. I would hope you would reconsider. I have in regards to Huckabee. And believe me, my feelings towards him aren’t far different than yours concerning Romney.
Lastly from SeekingGod
I just wish there was a way for Romney supporters and Huckabee supporters to call a truce and wave the white flag. They view us as having hate in our hearts and we view them as having hate in their hearts. When will it end?
Thank you. You are not conceding, but at least you understand that we feel the exact way you do. That is the first step to helping this end. Empathy. I understand that it infuriates you when I make negative comments about Huckabee or his supporters. I know because it infuriates me when you do the opposite. I try to keep that in mind when I address the issue. That doesn’t mean we can’t discuss differences, or point out that we disagree or dislike a candidate and why. I again stress civility. That’s one of the main things that separates us from the democrats.
I had wanted to say more but that is all the time I have for tonight.
~Nate Gunderson
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ADDENDUM: Ok, I’ve got time for one more. This one from christopher.wilkerson. It’s in response to SeekingGod’s quote above regarding waving a white flag and calling a truce.
I think this is possible, but for me the only way this could happen is if the Romney wing of the party could start showing a little respect to Gov. Mike Huckabee and Huckabee Republicans. This would include Hannity and Ingraham and Rush and Coulter and so on. Respect has to be a two way street. Huckabee and his followers are NOT A JOKE! We ARE the base. The insults have to end. Maybe the only way to make this happen is if Huckabee and Romney actually come together in a show of unity..perhaps at the convention ( if neither is chosen as VP.) John Mccain could be instrumental to this end. It is his job as the leader of this party to unite us. My anger towards Romney and his supporters is unique because of thier dismissive and condescending attitude towards us. They need to offer the olive branch because they were the aggressors, and we were wronged.
Christopher, I have read your comments for some time now, and you are correct the respect is a two-way street, but your comments towards Romney have been anything but respectful. Plus I find it a little arrogant that you think that you are the base? Do you realize that on Feb. 7 when Romney dropped out of the race that Huckabee was third in total votes and delegates. How is that the base? And lastly, who are the aggressors? What Romney supporter out there is “shouting” for the McCain campaign’s attention to warn him about selecting Huckabee? Are there full-page ads in newspapers warning against Huckabee? Are the forming groups called “Financial Conservatives Against Huckabee”? Easy answer - NO. I am offering an olive branch, but I have not been an aggressor. Nor am I claiming that I was wronged. That fact is that in politics your guy sometimes doesn’t win, even when you want him to the most, and we have to learn to deal with it without throwing blame. I am claiming though, that such an attitude as displayed in your comment is the wrong one to have.
Tags: abortion, Huck's Army, Huckabee, Mitt Romney
The Two John Edwards
As much as I hate for my first real blog post to be about someone besides Mitt Romney (and it’s a Democrat no less), but this is breaking news, and it has a great deal to do with politics, character, and family values. Now I’m afraid I can safely lump John Edwards in with the slew of other prominent politicians who have been unfaithful to the one who should have trusted them most: Newt Gingrich, Bill Clinton, Rudy Giuliani, Eliot Spitzer, just to name a few.
This might be a good time to draw attention to the personal lifestyle of Romney which is without such blemishes. I firmly believe that the personal lives and character of politicians has a great impact on America and its attitude towards such behavior as Edwards’. This revelation about John Edwards will only make these occurrences more “normal” and acceptable. It slowly crumbles the ideals of strong family values that this country holds, which ultimately will affect virtually all aspects of our lives. If I had been a supporter of John Edwards I would be devastated. The life of Governor Romney in contrast is refreshing and commendable. It’s too bad that it is commendable for a politician to remain faithful to his/her spouse, as it should be expected of them.
The story from CNN can be read here.
~Nate Gunderson
ADDENDUM: There is a little discussion going on about this at Race 4 2008. There are two comments I’d like to quote:
# BobH Says:
August 8th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
What I like is Edwards’ claim that he had an affair, but
a) I’m not the father of the child, and
b) It was while my wife’s cancer was in remission.
a) is reminiscent of “I smoked grass, but I didn’t inhale”, and b) is the ultimate “Oh, well then it’s all OK, John.”
This guy is one of the slimiest creatures of all time.
# Illinoisguy Says:
August 8th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Now we know more about what he meant by his “two Americas’ concept. 
ADDENDUM #2: Sorry. More noteworthy commentary from N & O: (H/T to MittIsIt4Prez)
Here is Edwards on Clinton on Feb. 12, 1999:
I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen.
Later, Edwards debated whether Clinton intended to obstruct justice when he talked with a White House employee:
We have a man who has just been confronted with this problem, who is political by nature. And do we really believe that the first thing he thought about is, “I’m going to go protect myself legally’”? I suspect the first thing he thought about is “I’m going to protect myself politically.” He was worried about his family finding out. He was worried about the rest of the staff finding out. He was worried about the press finding out.
Tags: character, Family Values, John Edwards, Mitt Romney
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